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#1 mike from boston

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 02:53 PM

Just read Danielle Millea's review of the Pogues Manchester show. I realize that journalistic standards are much lower in cyberspace, but her review is an embarrassment. I mean, she can't even do a little homework to find out the name of the "young woman" who sang "Fairytale of New York"?? I mean considering the "young woman" is the daughter (Ella) of a band member (Jem Finer) and has been singing the female part on this song for all the concerts in 2006, it wouldn't be too hard to find that information.
I also like the way that Ms. Millea can read Ella Finer's mind, knowing her intentions about leaving the stage in a hurry, is she
like one of the X-Men?? Also, she lazily copied a setlist- Pogues die hards know what "Dog" is, but a casual reader wouldn't
know that the correct name of the song is the Irish Rover. There was no mention of the death of Popes banjo player Tom McManamon which obviously cast a pall on the show. Don't be so lazy Danielle, you are an embarrassment :(

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 03:03 PM

Bang out of order mate.

I'm all for constructive criticism, but that was shit. The reviewers on this site make an effort to cover bands they are not necessarily a fan of, and therefore they might not know the ins and outs of lineup changes and the like.

My thoughts are that you are a die hard pogues fan who is pissed off that they got a bad review.

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 04:53 PM

Bang out of order mate.

I'm all for constructive criticism, but that was shit. The reviewers on this site make an effort to cover bands they are not necessarily a fan of, and therefore they might not know the ins and outs of lineup changes and the like.

My thoughts are that you are a die hard pogues fan who is pissed off that they got a bad review.


Tommy, did you read what I said?? If she wanted to criticize the Pogues, that is her right. I didn't complain about her opinion. My problem was with her shoddy research and work. In this day and age, how long would it take to do a little research on the band that you are about to cover?? 5 minutes? That is why I felt compelled to post.

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Posted 19 December 2006 - 08:05 PM

Awww come on mate we try our best, i think Daniella has had a long string of gigs back to back it's hard to do a lot of research - i should know i've started a hornets nest on Seth Lakeman's forums and my review isn't even up on here yet!

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Posted 20 December 2006 - 12:12 PM

Just read Danielle Millea's review of the Pogues Manchester show. I realize that journalistic standards are much lower in cyberspace, but her review is an embarrassment. I mean, she can't even do a little homework to find out the name of the "young woman" who sang "Fairytale of New York"?? I mean considering the "young woman" is the daughter (Ella) of a band member (Jem Finer) and has been singing the female part on this song for all the concerts in 2006, it wouldn't be too hard to find that information.
I also like the way that Ms. Millea can read Ella Finer's mind, knowing her intentions about leaving the stage in a hurry, is she
like one of the X-Men?? Also, she lazily copied a setlist- Pogues die hards know what "Dog" is, but a casual reader wouldn't
know that the correct name of the song is the Irish Rover. There was no mention of the death of Popes banjo player Tom McManamon which obviously cast a pall on the show. Don't be so lazy Danielle, you are an embarrassment :(


Thanks for commenting, these forums are here to debate the articles on eGigs and we appreciate any feedback that you might have.

However, I do think you're a little harsh on this reviewer. Danielle is certainly not an embarrasment and I think if you take a look back through her past reviews you might find yourself being a little embarrased at having said that.

Just because Danielle didn't use the woman's name there is nothing wrong with that. She described accurately what was going on on stage and therefore there is nothing to fault with her review. There is plenty of information in our reviews and I very much doubt that EVERY single Pogues review has named this singer, and I cannot see why you would criticize someone who didn't.

Also you don't have to be a mind reader to know when someone is uncomfortable about something, body actions are a big give away.

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:28 AM

I apologise if I have upset you with my take on the evening's events, and believe me I do do my research. Tis the season to have colds, of which I had a bad one at the time of the show, though this is no excuse. I also had no internet access when writing the review, so it was not as easy to research as usual.
The young lady, Ella, did look uncomfortable from where I was sat. I am no Pogues fan, though they are an excellent band.
Again sorry for your disappointment but feel free to read through my other reviews and check out my photographs, and cast judgement on me then.

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 10:29 AM

Also I was handed the setlist in the pit, and all of the names were abbreviations, which I painstakingly researched (though could find no 'Dog').




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